1995 Custom chopper/bobber Tiger/Boxer

What was your intended objective when you started the build?

I wanted to create either a Chopper or Bobber style build but using what we had readily available here in Thailand. But build it in the American Style. Doing a Hardtail, with Jockey Shift, forward controls etc.

What motivated you to start your project?

Harley’s are either extremely expensive or Impossible to find parts for. So when Royal Thai Police decided to upgrade their fleet to bigger/faster Bikes, I knew of this one that had been backed over in
Police compound. Totally destroying front forks and possibly frame. It had less then 3,000 kilometers on clock and engine 200cc may not have had it’s first oil change yet

What was the most unique and creative thing you did to the bike?

Did a a dual clutch. My normal left foot would have been shifting gears. Since I opted to use a jockey (hand) shift, I used 2 cables and tied together normal hand clutch and left forward foot lever. Now my wife could use hand clutch and put both feet on the ground if she needed, when stopped. Since I installed  a gear display digital, she could use foot clutch and hand (stick) to shift when moving,  Now on top plate triple tree is display to get in whatever gear or neutral as needed. I also designed and built a jackshaft to move chain to Lett as needed to clear wide tire. I moved chain (offset) it 7/8″.. My rear forks are wide enough to mount a 200/60/17 tire. But since I opted to use rear hub and same brake from Honda NSR150 I was limited to a 36h rim. Largest  or widest we could find was a Silver 17″x4.5″ so widest tire that would fit was a 160/60/17. I also used a chrome 18″x 1 3/4 chrome 36h rim with disc brake in front. Mounting a 18/80/3.0 tire. Total disc brakes w/abs and right foot/forward controlled rear brake master cylinder with fluid mounted brake switch.. I used Honda Phantom ta200 front chrome forks to give me length and strength. Also it used the same front brake caliper. I ran into an issue as
Phantom offset their front mag rim 9/16″ moving hub to left and rim to right also used a 284mm rotor, my tiger or Honda NSR  used 240mm O.D. calipers. I like old School… Spokes! I was not going to use that Dorky Honda mag!! I found that Yamaha 175cc used a spoke rim that Also could be mounted a 280mm rotor, in mounting hub to rim I needed to offset rim 9/16″ to right of hub. So using my trusty dial indicator I zeroed it at Tigers original hub and took same mount to get rim location. mounted Yamaha hub to match zeroed indicated proceeded to mount and lace rim, trueing rim to match Tigers, then proceeded to loosen/tighten spokes moving rim vertically to right, keeping it horizontally trued! Mounted tire doing no more used phantom Spacers a speedo drive mounted tire/wheel combo to forks…. Held my breath wscI attached caliper with mounting plate to forks… It dropped in place! Caliper fit perfectly! Tire was centered in forks! Issue fixed/solved!! All because as I could see Honda did not want owners to use spoke rims on the Phantom! This was before people started to custom drill hubs and rims to wider spokes.  I just used same width spoke as Yamaha I’d but the length of the Tigers… Perfect fit!!! I still have issue as I need to find a gas tank to fit lines of Build. I think I will try to get a moon style to fit under seat, leaving top frame tube free. As mounting a tank in normal portion in would need to sitt level with top of tube or it will hit carburetor  top and cables. As bike sits now I have 4 sprockets in final drive and using 2 chains. At engine and the 2 gears at jackshaft I have option to use 428/12T – 19T sprockets and rear wheel 32T- 44T. Engine has 5 speed transmission, so since engine power curvebwill now take me to 8,400rpm. I could dial in this bobber as a drag or land speed racer. ( If I am chosen all I would like is someone to find me a 8 1/2″ diameter  14″ wide moon style tank. Top side mount fill two top welded mounting bungs and center bottom fuel valve bung)  as you can imagine… Its very difficult here

What are you most proud of?

Getting dual clutch hardware to work, and front disc brake to allign properly… And keep my “Spoked” rim!!

What do other people say about your motorcycle?

Wow!


5 Comments

  • David Stipek says:

    I entered as you requested, but there is one issue…. Could you please spell my name correctly?? And where I am entering Contest from?

    My last name is: Stipek
    We live in: Thailand (Retired)

    Thank you!
    David Stipek
    Chiang Mai, Thailand

     
  • David Stipek says:

    For those that don’t know… here is a picture of Thai Boxer 200cc Motorcycle. It has slight modifications to eliminate the Royal Police Hardware and look:

    (Looks like software here will not let me add a photo here, I will try to send to Dennis Kirk. Reason being people do not know what extensive modifications were studied before this frame was welded and The Sortbike Look that Tigaer never got the chance to built… Was named the “Claw”.) She is the offspring of our Thai Tiger…

     
  • David Stipek says:

    Additional information: Bike has thermostatically controlled (dual) fans to control air cooled engines Oil Temperature when sitting in Bangkok Summer heat. This meant the addition of a 12VDC fully adjustable fan on / fan off Temperatures with engine dipstick being replaced also with analog Thermometer, and also this ride Sports a dual clutch! Both Left Hand (Normal) and Left Foot forward controls.

    We chose this Bike as it was being released (at Auctions) from Royal Thai Police active duty, as they upgraded their fleet to faster bikes. Plus it is a true Home Built Thai Bike. We had source parts from Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki to draw from. Once these Regional Builders realized we were not in competition to draw from their potential Sales we got help. All we were trying to do was show how to Marry the Western Technology with a True Asian Bike and with Asian Parts (with a little help from my Brothers in America and Europe. We have already finish installation of the Hydraulic Forward Rear Brake Controls.

    We kind-a reach a Impasse when we found the widest 36 spoke rim to be found was 4.5 inches. This meant our built was going to be limited to a 160mm wide tire, we built rear forks to handle up to a 200mm wide rim… also staying with 17″x36H rim gave us the use of our Honda Race NSR150 rear hub and brake system. This was the most reliable already proven rear Safety system. Not what we wanted but by Manufacturers chosen limitations, what we had to work with… (Kinda like a corral put up to limit Modifications to Asian Bikes…) All this because we had chosen to remain “Old School” Spoked Wheels!! All lighting on this bike is semi hidden, using LED Lights. Only Items on this Bike that have any Draw against Battery are Horn and Starter Motor.
    ***If you want further pictures to display and back-up my comments please ask

     
  • Rojarec Tippayapaisal says:

    David has shown us that we can use… “What we have here in Thailand” to build World class Bikes… I am sure that there are Harley Owners out there who won’t like this Bike Just because, It’s not a V-Twin… I am extremely sorry that this is sometimes the case. I have seen this Bike run… with either engine installed, Performance I will say would not have been there if it wasn’t for Years of Harley Davidson Riders Dreaming and Testing what works and what didn’t. I know David has followed it the footsteps of many Good people here who suggested, demanded, acknowledged what he should do and what he has done,

    Be kinda fun to Match Race him against Some of Harley’s Bad Boys… and turn some heads… being able to either kick or crank to start and the Sound of the Exhaust and final Tuning… (Thanks to Custom D.K. Products)

    The Wind is still in our Face, Cool Breeze in the Morning at Sun Rise… Coffee Eggs and Toast with other riders at the little Coffee Nook… Didn’t matter what we rode in on, just the fact, it was “On 2 Wheels”.

     
  • Jay Thai says:

    I have been to David’s Ban (word for House in Thailand). I have seen this Bike Build on and off thru all stages of it development. From what he Bought at Auction, Broken front end as it was destroyed when Police truck Backed over front fork and wheel. I helped him carry t home.
    As this is the 2nd Frame build to fit what he was trying to Build, Bike is in Primer (orange) now. Just got Steering Stabilizer and helped him install it June 3rd 2020.
    Trying to find a Tank that will fit lines, here in Thailand is next to impossible. I know David has been looking for a Small Moon style tank to fit under seat area to keep Top frame rail free. 16″ length x 8 1/2′ diameter (For anyone trying to help him reach his Goal. Bike is built as a Land Speed Racer, specifically built for GM/200cc class I have seen Time slips from GPS tracking at Royal Thai Airforce Base. He is already out performing both 200cc and 250cc class with his Balanced/Blueprinted 200cc engine, and his custom Built 345cc is right at GM/350cc Record.
    Anyone who has an old Moon style Tank laying around their House, Please feel free to donate it! Send it C.O.D. I will personally pay shipping for him. I know he is Taxed trying to insure he has funds for shipping Bike to and back to Thailand,

    The Bike was Officially A Tiger Boxer SP200cc build. One of the first Bikes to be built totally in Thailand. David Believes that if they were still in business they would have built a Sport Bike. So he named his Build “Claw”…. Still a Tiger, Still a Boxer… But meaner and open to a fight, Whether it Distance Run or Short Track , I have seen it do both, with his 4 Gear Final Gear Set-Up, 30 minutes from each other.
    I am proud of what David has done. From setting up a Group Page on Facebook to help Owners who purchased an Ex-Police Boxer 200cc, 150cc or 250 get their Bikes right. Help them repair what the original Owners neglected… So the Boxer can live on
    Jay

     

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5 Comments

  • David Stipek says:

    I entered as you requested, but there is one issue…. Could you please spell my name correctly?? And where I am entering Contest from?

    My last name is: Stipek
    We live in: Thailand (Retired)

    Thank you!
    David Stipek
    Chiang Mai, Thailand

     
  • David Stipek says:

    For those that don’t know… here is a picture of Thai Boxer 200cc Motorcycle. It has slight modifications to eliminate the Royal Police Hardware and look:

    (Looks like software here will not let me add a photo here, I will try to send to Dennis Kirk. Reason being people do not know what extensive modifications were studied before this frame was welded and The Sortbike Look that Tigaer never got the chance to built… Was named the “Claw”.) She is the offspring of our Thai Tiger…

     
  • David Stipek says:

    Additional information: Bike has thermostatically controlled (dual) fans to control air cooled engines Oil Temperature when sitting in Bangkok Summer heat. This meant the addition of a 12VDC fully adjustable fan on / fan off Temperatures with engine dipstick being replaced also with analog Thermometer, and also this ride Sports a dual clutch! Both Left Hand (Normal) and Left Foot forward controls.

    We chose this Bike as it was being released (at Auctions) from Royal Thai Police active duty, as they upgraded their fleet to faster bikes. Plus it is a true Home Built Thai Bike. We had source parts from Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki to draw from. Once these Regional Builders realized we were not in competition to draw from their potential Sales we got help. All we were trying to do was show how to Marry the Western Technology with a True Asian Bike and with Asian Parts (with a little help from my Brothers in America and Europe. We have already finish installation of the Hydraulic Forward Rear Brake Controls.

    We kind-a reach a Impasse when we found the widest 36 spoke rim to be found was 4.5 inches. This meant our built was going to be limited to a 160mm wide tire, we built rear forks to handle up to a 200mm wide rim… also staying with 17″x36H rim gave us the use of our Honda Race NSR150 rear hub and brake system. This was the most reliable already proven rear Safety system. Not what we wanted but by Manufacturers chosen limitations, what we had to work with… (Kinda like a corral put up to limit Modifications to Asian Bikes…) All this because we had chosen to remain “Old School” Spoked Wheels!! All lighting on this bike is semi hidden, using LED Lights. Only Items on this Bike that have any Draw against Battery are Horn and Starter Motor.
    ***If you want further pictures to display and back-up my comments please ask

     
  • Rojarec Tippayapaisal says:

    David has shown us that we can use… “What we have here in Thailand” to build World class Bikes… I am sure that there are Harley Owners out there who won’t like this Bike Just because, It’s not a V-Twin… I am extremely sorry that this is sometimes the case. I have seen this Bike run… with either engine installed, Performance I will say would not have been there if it wasn’t for Years of Harley Davidson Riders Dreaming and Testing what works and what didn’t. I know David has followed it the footsteps of many Good people here who suggested, demanded, acknowledged what he should do and what he has done,

    Be kinda fun to Match Race him against Some of Harley’s Bad Boys… and turn some heads… being able to either kick or crank to start and the Sound of the Exhaust and final Tuning… (Thanks to Custom D.K. Products)

    The Wind is still in our Face, Cool Breeze in the Morning at Sun Rise… Coffee Eggs and Toast with other riders at the little Coffee Nook… Didn’t matter what we rode in on, just the fact, it was “On 2 Wheels”.

     
  • Jay Thai says:

    I have been to David’s Ban (word for House in Thailand). I have seen this Bike Build on and off thru all stages of it development. From what he Bought at Auction, Broken front end as it was destroyed when Police truck Backed over front fork and wheel. I helped him carry t home.
    As this is the 2nd Frame build to fit what he was trying to Build, Bike is in Primer (orange) now. Just got Steering Stabilizer and helped him install it June 3rd 2020.
    Trying to find a Tank that will fit lines, here in Thailand is next to impossible. I know David has been looking for a Small Moon style tank to fit under seat area to keep Top frame rail free. 16″ length x 8 1/2′ diameter (For anyone trying to help him reach his Goal. Bike is built as a Land Speed Racer, specifically built for GM/200cc class I have seen Time slips from GPS tracking at Royal Thai Airforce Base. He is already out performing both 200cc and 250cc class with his Balanced/Blueprinted 200cc engine, and his custom Built 345cc is right at GM/350cc Record.
    Anyone who has an old Moon style Tank laying around their House, Please feel free to donate it! Send it C.O.D. I will personally pay shipping for him. I know he is Taxed trying to insure he has funds for shipping Bike to and back to Thailand,

    The Bike was Officially A Tiger Boxer SP200cc build. One of the first Bikes to be built totally in Thailand. David Believes that if they were still in business they would have built a Sport Bike. So he named his Build “Claw”…. Still a Tiger, Still a Boxer… But meaner and open to a fight, Whether it Distance Run or Short Track , I have seen it do both, with his 4 Gear Final Gear Set-Up, 30 minutes from each other.
    I am proud of what David has done. From setting up a Group Page on Facebook to help Owners who purchased an Ex-Police Boxer 200cc, 150cc or 250 get their Bikes right. Help them repair what the original Owners neglected… So the Boxer can live on
    Jay

     

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